Thats cause I based this character off them some but planned on changing the character as I made the story and updated the character to be more his own(I just used them as building blocks) + I think I might get rid of the attacks on every level.
(And by story im assuming you mean the OC summary/making the verse page)
@Monarch Ah I see. Just a question about Concept attacks (the one part of attacks all levels of existence), we do assume those affect only concepts on the same level of existence as the user (like regularly with concept manip), unless something suggests otherwise, right? So that character is assumed to affect only 3D concepts, but against a 4D concept (cause you know, cosmology and stuff. I'm actually asking this cause I'm wondering how it would interact with my verse, which has a thing with concepts of people), it does a bunch of nothing?
@Darg I can answer that, it depends on the characters hax level, like that is true with some chracters but like The Emperor is a 4-A but has High 1-B to 1-A hax(aka he could erase a 1-B from existence) despite being only a 4-A.
So lets say I make the story and have my character be able to affect a High 1-A(that has legit justification) conceptually, that would mean my character can affect High 1-As or lower on a conceptual level.
(Not saying I will but thats just an example)
Now until I add justifications and a story everything is 4-A.
So uh, I'm currently thinking about revising Alex (Wasteland Country) and I still don't know if I'm going to keep him at the tier he is. He likely will be severely downgraded and likely won't be in Tier 7 or 6. I'm telling you this because Alex has a loss against one of your characters.
Why I'm telling you this so we can just quickly figure out what to do. I'm willing to keep the loss there, but put it with (Pre-Downgrade or Pre-Revision) but I would feel as removing it is also an option. I would like your opinion on which you would prefer.
Genesis came from an older iteration of my work called the Oak of All Creation, which was like the Kabalah mixed with Norse Mythology. In that work, the verse was divided into 4 descending Worlds.
Assiah was the lowest world. It was the Third (Material) World, the World of Actions, though it also included things like spiritual and mental and astral planes, etc. Assiah was contained in the World Fruits of the Oak / Yggdrasil. Each World Fruit had infinite layers, and each layer could contain infinite dimensions and universes. Higher layers didn't transcend the concepts of dimensions though, so all that is still just High 1-B, albeit a very high level of High 1-B.
Outside the World Fruits was the Oak of All Creation / Yggdrasil, and was Yetzirah the World of Formation, the Second (Fundamental) Reality. Yetzirah / Yggdrasil contained what we now on the main wiki call True Platonic concepts - they exist independent from reality and shape it, everything within reality participates in them (1-A). This tree was the world that Genesis created, and it's a 1-A place. There was also an inverse version of Yggdrasil called the Ginnungagap. Essentially, Yggdrasil was existence, Ginnungagap was non-existence. Here lived the Nidhogg, Vedfolnir and Ratatoskr races, who were essentially living platonic concepts (Nidhogg embodied concepts of destruction, Vedfolnir embodied concepts of creation, and Ratotaskrs were neutral concepts each embodying everything else). They were overseen by the Great Kings, who could stomp whole armies of Veds, Nids, and Rats (but weren't full on transcendent, just really powerful. Like the difference between a star level and a normal person)
Then there is outside Yggdrasil/Ginnungagap, which was Beriah, the First (Primordial) Reality, World of Creation. This is where Genesis was born / created by Malkuth. This place (from Genesis's page at least, I forgot this little tidbit) transcends Yggdrasil by the same degree that the Great Kings transcend the lowest layer of a world fruit.
And finally there was Atzulith, the Zeroth Reality, World of Emanation, which was the Zeroth (or as I called it at that point, Ayn Sof). Within Ayn Sof were the rest of the Sephirot, but they kinda just chilled up there. So this last area isn't really relevant.
So... quite powerful actually, I forgot how strong she was. Essentially, Genesis is to the Great Kings, what the Great Kings are to the lowest level of life. Utterly transcendent, beyond even an infinite dimensional difference.
Her Mantle is also given to her by Malkuth (who was High 1-A), and prevents her from being harmed by any force of creation, even on her level above the concepts of creation, so she essentially has High 1-A defensive hax against certain attacks.
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I see ya point, my guy. Your guy is very high in regular 1-A, with High 1-A defensive hax.
To note, Lyle has been able to harm a the Scarlet King, whose Atziluth is technically beyond infinite from all the gods he's eaten, making him High 1-A (Granted, the damage was insignificantly tiny), besides, Lyle's glaring or roaring could potentially tear apart the mantle. For reference, Lyle is not of creation, as he is a destructive cell from Amaterasu, who is in turn transcendant of creation (While he technically was within creation, his Cell God form is in fact made of a substance that is beyond binary concepts like existing and not existing).
Not gonna lie tho, that verse you wrote is pretty awesome.
I dunno about destroying the mantle. It was made by a High 1-A after all. And it's not like a physical (or the 1-A counterpart) thing. It's like a position. Also technically speaking, everything on Beriah transcends creation, existence, destruction and non-existence - but somehow, the Mantle is still effective. Even after my old protagonists ascended to Beriah, transcending creation/destruction/non-existence/existence, they still couldn't harm Genesis because of the Mantle.
First of all i'm not trolling, i'm being dead serious. Just because you and your buddies agree to something doesn't make it true. Also his precog is not combat applicaible. So that's checked of.
I got people with bolded names telling me how the TES works, the OP pulling powers out his ass such as spatial manipulation and precog, and i got people agreeing just because they like the OP's avi and can't think for themselves. I also saw in the report thread that you were itching to find a reason to ban someone. Pathetic. If you want to talk in Skype i would be more than willing to i would love to hear your voices.
Let's make a scenerio.
I have Person A with is immune to BFR. And Person B with said BFR
Person A has that along with other hax.
is Person A going to be BFR'd? Answer this
It's almost like saying The One Above All is going to be BFR'd by Harkon. That's completly stupid and you know it. Read my other post
@AntVasima i want your word in this too, because i'm not trolling.
Dovah's resistance and absorption expands to shouts as well. And like i said in the previous post, If we treat shouts as reality warping then that's > BFR and power Null via spells that he's resistant to and can absorb via absorption and resistance don't you think?
If Dovah's resistance and absorption can cover other spells and reality warping in this case, what's stopping him from negating BFR and Power null from said spells.
Regardless whether or not you were trolling, you were still rude and unreasonable, and it was just a 1 month block. I would recommend waiting it out, and making a serious effort to behave better when you come back.
I still don't see how i did anything wrong besides sarcasm.
I was never warned. @Monarch decided to report me because he held a grude against my sarcastic comment.
This is the nature of debates. The majority of times both sides will only stick to what they believe in resulting in a never ending conversation.
It's just to put it blunty i feel like my view is more accurate.
OP in the thread said Rumpel's precog is combat applicable when it's not and there's no instance of spatial manipulation from him, only portal locating. You can see how i pointed that out earlier in the thread. This lead to confusion.
Also that guy is making borat and poltical jokes man lol
I decided to report you because based on your ad naseum arguments, "hahaha"s and spongebob memes, you seemed to be trolling, not because I held any grudges.
And my argument never involved precog or spatial manipulation. It involved Type 8 immortality and BFR/Transmutation, both of which Rumple can do, and which plot events show the Dragonborn has little, if any, resistane to.
Hmm. Although idk how this is, but the rankings of the AP may also need a change? I believe that Town level is not used anymore and that, except for those who don't utilize CQC fighting much or are piss level fighters of that level (something like FSN Caster or Shakespere from what i was told), most servants are about City level. Mountain level if they happen to be as strong as those like Heracs or have something like Karna and such.